New Hampshire recognizes the writing on the wall

As some of you know, New Hampshire recently caught up with Vermont, allowing for same sex marriage in their fine, if somewhat behind the rest of us, state.  

There was some question, however, as to whether or not this would stand.  Last election cycle, the Granite state elected a whole bunch of ultra-right wing, ultra-crazy, tea party style republicans, to the point where they had a veto-proof majority if they were willing to work as a sold block.  The one saving grace of this is that some of them are too crazy to compromise.  One of the items on the chopping block was marriage equality.  The thing is, however, they figured out last year that they really did not want to have that fight.  

So they held it off for a year.  And that’s when things got interesting.

Support for marriage equality has, in fact, grown in New Hampshire.  Just like in Vermont and Massachusetts, this is the sort of thing that when people claim the sky will fall if it happens and then, when it happens, there’s no falling sky, people start to think “hey! You people promised me moon rocks raining down form the heavens!  You have no credibility!”  Or something.  I probably can’t tell exactly what people who believe that sort of thing would think, because from my point of view, they’re very crazy, very gullible, or both.

So, anyway… yes, marriage equality in New Hampshire is not only not unpopular, repealing it is *wildly* unpopular:

The WMUR Granite State poll shows that only 27 percent of New Hampshire adults support repealing same-sex marriage, while 50 percent strongly oppose repeal. The percentages are similar to a poll asking the same question in February.

Note that phrase “strongly oppose.”  This is a state that’s thinking “what did we put you people in charge for, because it certainly wasn’t this.”

So what happened yesterday?

The initial panic from the anti-marriage forces could be seen early when NOM (the National Organization for Marriage, which, ironically, is opposed to my marriage) floated support for a “compromise” bill, which would replace same-sex marriage with civil unions.

This happened in Massachusetts some time back.  When they were discussing the possibility of same sex marriage, the debate shifted dramatically to the point where instead of conservatives opposing civil unions, civil unions became the inadequate conservative alternative to full marriage equality.  So NOM, which blatantly opposed even civil unions until recently, tried a hail mary pass in which they would support civil unions in hopes of avoiding marriage equality.

Why did they do this?  Because even though they are a bigoted, vile, hate group they are not, in fact, complete morons.  They, in fact, saw their entire New Hampshire campaign collapsing before their eyes.

And that’s when this happened:

That win is ours.  Not only did we defeat the attempt to repeal marriage equality.  It went down in flames.

Oh, and to NOM:

“While we are disappointed in this vote today, we remain committed to giving the voters of New Hampshire the opportunity to restore the traditional definition of marriage. The only time gay marriage activists are able to win is when they can bypass the people and get activist judges or legislators to do their bidding, usually after plying them with large campaign contributions.

Yes.  Representative Democracy is such a pain.  

6 thoughts on “New Hampshire recognizes the writing on the wall

  1. The crazification factor strikes again!


    John: Hey, Bush is now at 37% approval. I feel much less like Kevin McCarthy screaming in traffic. But I wonder what his base is —

    Tyrone: 27%.

    John: … you said that immmediately, and with some authority.

    Tyrone: Obama vs. Alan Keyes. Keyes was from out of state, so you can eliminate any established political base; both candidates were black, so you can factor out racism; and Keyes was plainly, obviously, completely crazy. Batshit crazy. Head-trauma crazy. But 27% of the population of Illinois voted for him. They put party identification, personal prejudice, whatever ahead of rational judgement. Hell, even like 5% of Democrats voted for him. That’s crazy behaviour. I think you have to assume a 27% Crazification Factor in any population.

    John: Objectively crazy or crazy vis-a-vis my own inertial reference frame for rational behaviour? I mean, are you creating the Theory of Special Crazification or General Crazification?

    Tyrone: Hadn’t thought about it. Let’s split the difference. Half just have worldviews which lead them to disagree with what you consider rationality even though they arrive at their positions through rational means, and the other half are the core of the Crazification — either genuinely crazy; or so woefully misinformed about how the world works, the bases for their decision making is so flawed they may as well be crazy.

    John: You realize this leads to there being over 30 million crazy people in the US?

    Tyrone: Does that seem wrong?

    John: … a bit low, actually.

  2. Great news, since the NH House has been a cornucopia of crazy since the 2010 election. Our sibling site, Blue Hampshire, is a great read for this stuff — funny and scary at the same time. I think my favorite Crazy Bill was the one mandating that every new bill must state, in its text, its derivation from the Magna Carta.

    Not the Constitution — the Magna Carta.

    Thankfully, that one got shot down quickly. But the fact that this legislative body would vote by almost 2-1 against repeal… that says something about how quickly marriage equality gains common acceptance once it’s in place and everyone can see that the Republic doesn’t fall and pigs don’t start flying.  

  3. Reality:

    “Granite State poll shows that only 27 percent of New Hampshire adults support repealing same-sex marriage … 50 percent strongly oppose repeal”

    NOM fantasy:

    “The only time gay marriage activists are able to win is when they can bypass the people”

    So NOM saying that only the 27% count as ‘people’?

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