(Wow. – promoted by JulieWaters)
*Updated* (additional related info links)
(via VtDems, here; length: 38 seconds)
Read an article that reports on how Brian Dubie‘s list does not appear to be what it was said to be (via vtdigger), here.
Related information:
- 7Days Blurt post on Steve Howard differing with Peter Shumlin‘s prison plan (here);
- State Senator Dick Sears press release regarding Brian Dubie‘s attack ads on prison plan (here);
- Vermont View post on controversy and robotic call concerning it (here);
- Archived audio of Brian Dubie campaign robotic call (here).
- State Senator Dick Sears Op-Ed: Facts about crime in Vermont (via Times Argus, here)
- Times Argus article on Steve Howard and Lt. Governors race tie-in (here).
(cross-posted from Vermont Watch, here)
It would have been a lot funnier if they’d asked Dubie. He’d have felt a need to improvise and before we knew it, there would be a story out there about him having received the list from magical firefighter elves who shared it with him while he was deployed on duty for the national guard.
is forced to make the lame claim that Brian Dubie misspoke.
Dubie may be one of the most vulnerable to the charge of fabricating or just making up stuff as it suits his needs.
Whatever serves his purpose at the moment is apparently ok.
Retroactively he can always misspeak.
…Have you no sense of decency sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?”
Bet Joseph McDubious can’t even ID 57 nonviolent offenders…
Lengthy, detailed Burlington Free Press article providing background of evolving controversy, here.
that come to mind in the most general of ways and, there are most likely others worthy of consideration, with which to attempt to understand or explain this latest lapse on the part of Lt. Governor and Republican candidate for Governor Brian Dubie:
1. Other than having made the initial request for the document as he had stated, after not receiving what was requested, he knowingly lied and made the rest up in an attempt to deceive debate attendees and the press covering the event by passing off the document as something it was not in order to score points over his opponent and figured no one would notice or do their homework:
This would appear to be highly dubious er, doubtful (and, while easy to allege, it would also be very hard to prove, if at all; thus, not worthy of making such assumptions — without direct, clear and convincing evidence to prove otherwise).
2. Having asked the corrections commissioner for the list and, receiving a document and although not the one requested, either he did not give it a careful enough of a read beyond the cover letter or was not probably briefed by his handlers after they read it over. Then, in the heat of debate and with the request for the list deeply entrenched (read: stuck or caught in a repeating loop) within his mind, he spoke of it as if it was exactly what he had originally requested. This without any intent to deceive, due to getting confused given all the issue briefings and piles of documents, etc.:
Something along these lines would appear to be certainly plausible, especially if one were inclined to believe what seems to have become the default line from the campaign in an attempt to spin, explain and excuse yet another lapse by their candidate; however, if so, then it gives one reason for pause and concern due to the office being sought and because of what this sort of recurring lapse in either comprehension, understanding or judgement could bring about in decision making at what is the highest level of state government, especially when things get tense and so on.
3. He did not read the document at all and simply assumed it was exactly what he had requested and someone within his campaign did not do their homework or job:
Once again, this is also highly dubious er, doubtful, yet even if it were not, there is no way such a disclosure would ever be allowed to become known outside the close, inner circle of his team.
4. (your guess er, speculation is as good as mine)
That said, we are all human and anyone can make such mistakes, especially when under such tremendous pressure and not within what is one’s comfort zone (i.e., not everyone is good at making public presentations and, even when someone is, they can make such mistakes, misspeak or experience such lapses as well. Peter Shumlin has had his share at times too).
Thus, I am inclined to believe it is more likely to be along the lines of the above number two possibility.
Does anyone know what the deal is with Dubie’s twin brother?
My mother was a teacher in Essex Jct. back in the day and remembers Brian having a twin brother, Jerry (or maybe Gerry).
I haven’t seen him mentioned anywhere.
What scares me more than listening to Brian (Which is a telling misspelling of the word: “brain”) is realizing that there are people who will actually vote for him.
Nothing over the years has angered me more than listening to this junk-soap-tabloid-garbage spewing from Dubie and I am as thoroughly disgusted as one can be. The ads alone are about all I can take – it’s sheer torment to have to listen to him in a debate and I can barely believe he’s allowed to speak, let alone run for such a high office, and have any following at the same time.
It’s more than just show biz jitters or poor presentation skills; the man has nothing of substance to speak about and even if someone wrote it all down for him, he’d stumble over the words like a newly taught reader and have no clue as to the content of the words spilling awkwardly from his trap.
If he comes close to even 20% of the vote in November I will be a believer that the entire world has gone straight to hell because if Vermont can’t hold onto it’s integrity then I can’t believe there’s any hope left anywhere else.
If ever there should be a way to throw someone out of a state, Brain boy should be the first to go.
Innocent mistake. What Mr. Dubie actually had in his hands was the list of 800 state employees he and Brother Douglas threw in the gutter over the past few years. He reads it every so often when he’s feeling down and needs a lift. Twisted, but every conservative needs an outlet.
Anyone old enought to be hearing echos of the original Manchurian Candidate movie?
Do not know why it did not come to mind to name the title of this post Brian Dubie’s Dubious Prison List or simply Dubious Prison List or whatever, however I guess I missed my chance.
By the way, with all the fearmongering he is doing and, given Halloween is a month or so away, for more than one reason it would be no wonder if someone were to provide him with the nickname of Scarecrow (click onto name to follow link), which almost seems fitting somehow.
Where is Dorothy and Mister Wizard when you need them!?
I noticed that, at the VPR debate, when Dubie brandished his “26-page plan” that his body language seemed to say that he hadn’t even read it…just been handed it as a prop as he stepped to the podium.
“I could while away the hours,
conferrin’ with the TOWERS
Consultin’ with the PLANES.
And my head I’d be scratchin’ while
my thoughts were busy hatchin’
If I only had a brain”
Phantom list or not, prisoners are real and in Vermont, and they can vote. Shumlin can go to any prison in the state to campaign at any time, and at the same time encourage voter registration while he’s at it.
He has several hundred votes waiting for him and I think that with his agenda, all he has to do is ask for those votes.
Each prisoner must have a minimum of four family members willing to go to the polls, too.
Dubie must not realize exactly how many Vermont constituents are behind bars in Vermont. No doubt absentee ballots can be sent to Kentucky, Oklahoma and Greenfield, Ma. for the sorry souls who have been shipped out of state.